Charles's picture
Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones October 4, 2011 - 12:19pm

so, for the first time in years im watching (well, more listening to) daytime TV, and i have seen a ton of these commercials for for-profit colleges and trade schools, and such, and something struck me:

these people talking about how easy it is to get your education still talk like they're living in a a gutter somewhere smoking meth and eating government cheese. im not a rocket scientist, or anything, but im kinda thinking if you're trying to attract students, you might wanna have people on your commercials who are actually educated. i understand that ignorance is in, and everything needs a hip-hop ad campaign, and so forth and so on.... but college?

Nick Wilczynski's picture
Nick Wilczynski from Greensboro, NC is reading A Dance with Dragons by George R.R. Martin October 4, 2011 - 12:29pm

Well, the goal of the American accreditation system is not to "educate" people. You do not want people to think they will have more measured and reasonable philisophical and intellectual stature when they are done with your program, you want to assure them that they can make money.

And in any event, for profit colleges exist to make money themselves, not because they love knowledge. The one thing they have learned is that if your students take out massive, federally subsidized loans in the hopes of bettering themselves economically by recieving accreditation then it is not your problem whether or not they can find a job afterwards. And the truth is, for all the high minded talk of places like ECPI, U of Pheonix, IT Tech, they are still very often training people and even advertising their capacity to train people in construction. The hell is that? I know the economy has been bad, but you should probably update your ads instead of trying to tell people there is still a growing job sector in the "Construction Foreman" field.

But they don't care, and neither do their customers. Their customers are suckers, those are the customers they want. Those are the customers they advertise to. And those suckers all somehow look uncannily like meth-heads or recovering alcoholics.

Fylh's picture
Fylh from from from is reading is from is reading is reading is reading reading is reading October 4, 2011 - 2:57pm

If anyone wants to speak about the university system, there are three things to keep in mind.

1. Socially inclusive policies, in education, are not always a good thing.

2. Universities can't escape political pressures as easily as they used to.

3. Education is more than being taught.

Too many people ignore these things.

Charles's picture
Charles from Portland is reading Mongrels by Stephen Graham Jones October 4, 2011 - 3:02pm

i agree with all of those, phil. and i would say i encounter at least one of them every day... and not always because im dealing with the socially inclusive and not aptly named "students with disabilities" department, in which no disabled person actually works, and being fat and dumb seem to be disabilities which are primarily dealt with to the degree that people seem confused by trying to help a physically disabled person with an IQ higher than theirs....